Phr00tie Beoulve ([info]phr00tie) wrote,
@ 2006-01-26 16:12:00
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UH OH
No fanarts allowed in Otakon artist alley!

While that should help cut down the number of people trying to get a table, and thus improve the chances of ME getting my space... uhhh... I dunno.

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[info]jestermotley
2006-01-26 09:21 pm UTC (link)
Interesting, I wonder just how strictly this will be enforced.

Hmmmm, yes indeeds.

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[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 11:53 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it might end up being just a scare...

I seriously don't know which is worse -- these rules being enforced, or ignored.

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[info]mentalguy
2006-01-28 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Probably them being inconsistently enforced.

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[info]zerochan
2006-01-26 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Can you give a bit more detail for those of us who aren't regged on that particular forum? :3

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[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Can't sell or display stuff depicting characters, images, etc. etc. that you do not own -- even if the composition and pose and such are your own.

There are other changes too, but I don't think those are as big a news as that.

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[info]zerochan
2006-01-26 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Did they say WHY, though? I don't think they could get into any legal trouble, could they?

Man, who am I going to ask for Vanessa pictures now :(

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[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 10:15 pm UTC (link)
They just mentioned the legal stuff.

I have a BAJILLION things to say about the new rules and the way the department head is responding to the posts, but I think I should just drop it. :\ They don't seem to be listening to critiques.

I mean, this isn't going to affect me much... most of what I sold in the past were originals. But the way they're just dismissing criticisms really bugs me.

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[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 10:16 pm UTC (link)
Oh, and the department head also said:

"It will NOT be allowed. Again, what would the original artist/creator think? And what would the original artist's/creator's lawyers think?"

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[info]zerochan
2006-01-26 10:25 pm UTC (link)
"Ask those guys screaming YAOOOOOOOOOOOOOI" and reselling doujinshi!"

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[info]shax
2006-01-27 01:25 am UTC (link)
"I am not in charge of the Dealers Room. You will need to direct your question to the person who is."



: BELIEVE I-



: I'M GONNA SUE YOUR ASS AT OTAKON

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Well, this just means people are ...
[info]nunuu
2006-01-26 11:09 pm UTC (link)
... going to still continue swiping poses and drawing lookalikes! :E Or do they have a rule about drawing original characters that LOOK like existing trademarked characters?

Oh well, I'm sure blobs of people did Zero's argument about doujinshi and stuff.

North America is just stupid overall when it comes to this sort of stuff. I mean, people sue just cuz you sneezed on them.

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Oh yeah~
[info]nunuu
2006-01-26 11:13 pm UTC (link)
~~ Are there a bunch of folks screaming for boycott now? :B

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Re: Well, this just means people are ...
[info]zerochan
2006-01-26 11:25 pm UTC (link)
"I'm an original creation. Like Rickey Rouse, or Monald Muck."

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XDDDD
[info]nunuu
2006-01-26 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Sounds like a Hong Kong bootleg. ^O^;;;

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Re: Well, this just means people are ...
[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 11:51 pm UTC (link)
*sneezes on you!*

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OBJECTION!
[info]nunuu
2006-01-27 12:13 am UTC (link)
:3

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[info]junosama
2006-01-26 11:33 pm UTC (link)
WOW! That's interesting, though this basically made my decision on whether or not I should go this year XD;; Good luck with Otakon though, MAKE LOTS OF MOONEYZ!!

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[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 11:51 pm UTC (link)
THE JUNO ISN'T COMING

Their loss. -_-;;

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[info]silvertales
2006-01-26 11:38 pm UTC (link)
*uhhhh*

I don't know how I feel about this. This was the first time I was considering attending Otakon's AA in a few years and now the policy has changed.

I also don't think the department head is actually listening to any ofthe questions being asked, after reading the post and replies. She seems to be brushing it all off, not to mention the fact that Otakon will now have contraditory policies in multiple departments. For instance, if the Art Show and the Dealer's Room alow the sale of things like fanart and/or doujinshi, then the AA artist loses out due to tighter restrictions on what they're allowed to sell.

*narf*

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[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 11:49 pm UTC (link)
My sentiments exactly. :\ I won't be directly affected, but this is just blah.

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[info]kyubikitsy
2006-01-26 11:44 pm UTC (link)
Well well.. I'm amused that they're cracking down on this now.. >_>; After the years of our complaining about people copying art, swiping layouts, etc... -_-;

Well, I hope you manage to get a table in the light of these events~ ^^

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[info]phr00tie
2006-01-26 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Funny thing is, I doubt they'll hunt down them swipes, as long as they're not FANARTS!

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[info]kyubikitsy
2006-01-26 11:53 pm UTC (link)
Wouldn't that be ironic~ XD;



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[info]shax
2006-01-26 11:56 pm UTC (link)
POSTED. Let's see how Rachel Ann completely disregards it!

Ah, well. At best, they have an ABSOLUTELY DISASTEROUS year at Artist Alley, and things will be back to normal for 2007's Otakon. At worst... well, there ARE other conventions >;3.

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[info]uminomamori
2006-01-27 12:11 am UTC (link)
WTF. Makes me less interested in going there in the future. I don't do much fanart but it sure sells in AA. Are they gonna not allow it in the art show either? Watch their AA go poof. No one's trying to shut down all the Japanese doujinshi.

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[info]selie
2006-01-27 12:59 am UTC (link)
I'm going to have to go with "Rachel Ann is a retard who 1) doesn't understand how transactions in an artist alley work and 2) can't do math regarding table space and price".

I'm also going to have to go with "Otakon is going to be too expensive and not make anyone any money" and mark that off my list of cons I might go to. Not too bad, I needed to have a reason not to go anyway. And I hate, HATE the way the Otakon artist alley is run. Hated it last year too.

Kind of a shame.

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[info]eaglemaina
2006-01-27 02:37 am UTC (link)
I for one won't really be concerned about it, since I usually don't really have fanart in my portfolio. I TRIED to have some, but lord knows how much I love drawing fanart =P (not!)

But I do enjoy people drawing fanart though. People can do such lovely work! It would be a shame not to allow it in AA.

But then again I'm not sure I want to show up again at Otakon. I have sent countless e-mails about not being payed for my art that went into auction and they NEVER replied. I'm annoyed really. T___T I won't get to see you Min!!! NOOOOOOOOO T_____T

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[info]et
2006-01-27 03:56 am UTC (link)
I like how RachaelAnn isn't even listening to the feedbacks >.> and somehow think everything will be just fine. I wonder what the normal con-goers think of this change though, maybe they will listen if there are some feedbacks from that group of people? : \
I think I'm taking my trip money to that crappy FFXI event now D:

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[info]isamu1916
2006-01-27 04:09 am UTC (link)
hmmm this may mean i probably won't be going to the con but getting my feed on around baltimore waaithing for those of you to finish if your going. but really all this just means i'll be going to japan to sell my fan art even if it puts me back 2 3 grand

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[info]mentalguy
2006-01-28 08:53 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm. I guess it doesn't affect me directly as I wasn't planning on selling any fanart this year, but ... I dunno. It sounds like the vibe is gonna be pretty much dead now. I think I may pass on Otakon this year...

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[info]mentalguy
2006-01-28 08:54 pm UTC (link)
(I'll still be available for group dinner outside the con or something though...)

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